Prominent Russian philosopher Alexander Dugin said in a March 19, 2022 interview on Al-Jazeera TV (Qatar) that Russia will either win in Ukraine and be accepted as a sovereign superpower, or "there will be no Putin, no Russia, no world." He said that any NATO intervention will be responded to "in kind," including the use of nuclear weapons if NATO launches a nuclear attack against Russia. He emphasized: "The decision to continue with the operation to our last breath has been taken." In addition, Dugin said that Russia's war in Ukraine is not against Ukraine as a country, but against "American hegemony" and the "global liberal elites who are trying to take over the world." He also said that Putin is so popular that the people have effectively made him Russia's "natural monarch.” For more about Alexander Dugin, see MEMRI TV Clips No. 9433 and No. 7839.
Alexander Dugin: "Russia is destined to win. We have no other choice. This is an existential threat to us, so victory is our only choice. After our victory, the world will not be the same as it is today."
Interviewer: "It sounds as if you are trying to tell me that you are fighting the U.S. in Ukraine - that you are defeating the U.S. - which you call the "unipolar" (power) - in Ukraine. Is this the main reason why you entered Ukraine?"
Dugin: "Yes, exactly. This is a fight against American hegemony, but not only the hegemony of the Americans. Imagine that Donald Trump was still president of the United States. If Trump were still in power, all of this would not have happened. He was realistic and refrained from exerting pressure on us. He did not care too much about Ukraine or the spread of NATO.
"So this is a confrontation not only with the United States, but also with the global liberal elites who are trying to take over the world.
"We are fighting against the hegemonic totalitarian liberal system, and not against the U.S. as a country, or Europe, or Ukraine as a country. It is a war against (those) principles. It is a war of ideas.
"We are fighting against the liberal world order, and in order to provide other nations and cultures with the right to self-determination, rather than being puppets of the Americans."
Interviewer: "Do you consider Putin to be the Russian state? A manifestation of that state? Have all the state institutions become irrelevant next to Putin? Did I understand you correctly? Is Putin now the Russian state, and the Russian state is Putin?"
Dugin: "Yes, yes. We can say that he is in the position of monarch or an emperor. But he is not a real emperor or monarch. In Qatar, you have a monarchy, which is doing very well. There is nothing wrong with that. But what I wanted to say is that Putin is a natural monarch - not because he wants to be a monarch, but because we want him to be one. This is a popular monarchy, by popular demand. We want him to be a monarch and to become the embodiment of the Russian state and spirit.
"We do not even consider the possibility of defeat, because that cannot happen. Otherwise, there will be no Putin, no Russia, and no world, as far as I know, because we have put everything on the line. Therefore, it is important to listen to what Mr. Putin is saying about a possible nuclear attack in case we face a nuclear attack by NATO. If NATO intervenes, the retaliation will be in kind. Therefore, the decision to continue with the operation to our last breath has been taken, and we have no choice but to win."
Interviewer: "The way I understand it, you are saying: 'Either we win or we use nuclear weapons and it will be the end of the world.' Did I understand you correctly?"
Dugin: " Yes, exactly. These are the words of our president. Without Russia, there is no humanity. If you want to live on this Earth, you should accept Russia as an independent sovereign superpower."