Following are excerpts from an interview with Egyptian cleric Mahmoud Shaaban, which aired on Al-Hafez TV on June 7, 2013:
Mahmoud Shaaban: [Egyptian-German political scientist Hamed Abdel-Samad] has committed heresy. All that is left in order to pronounce him a heretic is to confront him with the evidence. Once this is completed, he can be pronounced a heretic, and should be killed.
Interviewer: You need to talk to him three times...
Mahmoud Shaaban: To confront him with the evidence. Then, if he refuses to recant, he must be killed for being a heretic. Then, if he refuses to recant, he must be killed for being a heretic.
He is a heretic, and it is incumbent upon the state to kill him. I say so here and now, and you can go to the attorney-general and sue me. If, after confronting him with the evidence, he still claims to be a Muslim, he must be killed for being a heretic.
As for the stupid, heretic things he said – that Fascism, injustice, and terrorism began with the [Muslim] conquest of Mecca – I say to him: You are suffering from blindness of the heart, blindness of the eyes, lack of knowledge, and general blindness.
I call upon Dr. Morsi and all the men of Egypt to implement Islamic law upon that man. He is a heretic, and after he has been confronted with the evidence, the shari'a sentences him to death.
I hereby issue a fatwa that once he has been confronted with the evidence, his killing is permitted, and I am prepared to be investigated by the attorney-general. I say to the Egyptian people: After this man and his ilk have been confronted with the evidence, their killing is permitted. This is my ruling. Although we live in a country where Allah's law is not instated, anyone who commits heresy and affronts Islam and the Prophet... Listen carefully, I will say it again: I hereby issue a fatwa that after he has been confronted with the evidence, his killing is permitted if the government does not do it.