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Following are excerpts from an interview with Sameh Abdallah, editor-in-chief of Al-Ahram Daily, which aired on CBC TV on September 12, 2013:
Sameh Abdallah: Some countries, first and foremost the United States, do not want stability in this region, in the heart which lies Egypt. I have evidence of this. For 15 years, I've been meeting Americans and others, and I have been hearing these things. I couldn't believe it at the time, but it turned out to be true.
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Russia has realized the American schemes, which have gotten to the point of trying to stage a revolution in Russia, like the revolutions of the Arab Spring. I know this for a fact because I was invited to Moscow to give lectures, by the same groups that I later realized were trying to stage the revolution in Russia. They brought me over so that I, an Egyptian citizen, could tell them how to stage an Arab-Spring-style revolution. These associations are funded by the Americans. Six months after I left, they shut them down. I'm telling you, this is a big story. Russia has figured out what America is trying to do. This is the context of Russia's support for Al-Assad and Iran, and so on.
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The Americans would not have gotten rid of Hosni Mubarak unless they knew in advance who was coming in his stead.
Interviewer: It was the Americans who got rid of Hosni Mubarak?!
Sameh Abdallah: They could have opposed it if they had only wanted to.
Interviewer: Some say that this came as a surprise even to the Americans. In the first few days of the revolution, they were confused, because they had not expected it. Only later did they realize that [Mubarak] had no hope.
Sameh Abdallah: The Americans were among those who fanned the flames of the Egyptian revolution, both directly and indirectly. I know this for a fact. I'm not just talking.
Interviewer: Obviously, you mean after the revolution had already broken out...
Sameh Abdallah: They were the ones who ignited the flames, through people they trained abroad. Some of these people knew what they were training for, while others did not know, and were happy at the chance to learn some technology.
Interviewer: Even though it was in America's interest to keep Mubarak in power...
Sameh Abdallah: No, it wasn't. For ten years, America has been saying it would bring down the Mubarak regime. It's written on CNN. I know because I wrote it myself when I was working with them. I was a journalist there at the time. The story came my way, and I'm the one who dealt with it.
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In the Gulf states, when someone is a troublemaker, they dig a hole in the desert and throw him in to die. In America, they use snipers to shoot him from over 300 meters away, and nobody knows who killed him. That's what happened with Kennedy and Martin Luther King, for example. They do it "legally." Nobody gets arrested.
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I have a theory, which almost everyone opposes.
Interviewer: Let's hear it.
Sameh Abdallah: I think it is in the interest of the U.S. to push Iran to obtain nuclear weapons. This is a very peculiar theory, I know.
Interviewer: It's in their interest to push Iran to obtain nuclear weapons?!
Sameh Abdallah: Indeed it is.
Interviewer: Does Iran realize this?
Sameh Abdallah: They are 100% aware of it.
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In ten years time, how will I justify the U.S. forces in the Gulf to the American taxpayers, who know nothing about strategy and so on, and all they care about is their work, food, car, and home by the beach? Iran's nuclear weapons are the means to justify these forces.
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I have visited Iran three times and met with high-ranking officials there. Iran knows better than to engage in a confrontation with Israel. On the contrary, I fear that one day, Israel and Islamic Iran will form an alliance against the Arab countries, and with America's blessing.
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What everybody knows is that the Japanese attacked the Americans in Pearl Harbor during World War II, and this was the incentive for the U.S. to join the war... Ultimately, the U.S. attacked Japan with nuclear bombs. What we are told is that Japan attacked the U.S., forcing it to join the war as a defensive measure. What people don't know is that the U.S. had been provoking Japan for a long time, in order to get it to attack in Pearl Harbor, because it wanted to join the war and was seeking a justification. Things are not always as simple as they seem.
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