Interviewer: "What kind of terrorism are you accused of? What was your specialty?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Making explosive devices."
Interviewer: "Let's go back to the beginning when you started making those explosive devices. Where did your history in making explosive devices start? How did you learn to make those explosive devices?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "We used to go fishing before and make small explosive devices. Gradually… The war started and the Americans came."
Interviewer: "When did you start to make small explosive devices to use in fishing? In what year was that?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Before the events; before the Americans came to Iraq."
Interviewer: "Before the war?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Yes. Then the Americans came and the remainder of the Iraqi Army's weapons were abundant. So, the explosive materials were available in huge quantities in the streets."
Interviewer: "You started making the explosive devices?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Sort of."
Interviewer: "What did you do with them?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "There was no need to make them. They come ready to be used, but we would add some materials, clean them, and add a detonator to them." […]
My Decision To Use These Explosive Devices Was "A Matter of Patriotism Because We Saw the American Forces Invading Our Country"
Interviewer: "How did you decide to use those explosive devices in the bombings? Did you meet people who said you should do this? Or did you make this decision on your own?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "No, no: it was a matter of patriotism because we saw the American forces invading our country."
Interviewer: "This patriotism… Were you sitting with friends who encouraged you? Or did you make the decision by yourself to start this and then you talked to your friends?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "No, no, it was my decision and I started this behavior. The Americans used to break into the houses, beat women, and take children hostages."
Interviewer: "So, patriotism drove you to start this?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Yes."
Interviewer: "Did you start alone?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Almost." […]
"The Americans Killed My Brother; So, At That Time, I Got the Motive To Retaliate"
'Ahd Sabbah: "The events took place and there were battles and fighting. Our area witnessed accidents and… The Americans killed my brother. So, at that time, I got the motive to retaliate."
Interviewer: "Which one of your brothers?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "His name was Firas. So I decided to take revenge for my brother's death and for the country. So that is what happened."
Interviewer: "When you decided to retaliate, what was the step you took? Did you call anyone?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "The battles took place in that area almost every day. So, each one took action in his place according to what he had. People used machine guns or… The battles were happening there on a regular basis and people used to go out and fight whenever the American came."
Interviewer: "Yes, but you are telling me that you used to make those explosive devices. You told me that you didn't detonate anything yourself."
'Ahd Sabbah: "No, no, I didn't detonate anything."
Interviewer: "Who did you give the explosive devices to?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "There was a man called Ammar." […]
Interviewer: "If I Told You That the Explosive Devices and Planted Bombs… Usually Claim The Lives Of... [Iraqi] Youth, Women and Children – What Would Your Reaction Be [?]" Ahd Sabbah: "I Don't Know"
'Ahd Sabbah: "I lived in Al-Anbar first then I moved to Al-Mousel."
Interviewer: "You moved from Al-Anbar to live in Al-Mousel."
'Ahd Sabbah: "Yes."
Interviewer: "And you moved the operations there with you?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Yes."
Interviewer: "Were all the operations there carried out against Americans?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Yes, I don't know. I only knew about the story of this governor. They said they wanted to conduct an operation…"
Interviewer: "I am surprised to hear that you only saw on TV the images of holes and glass because the TV channels show the pieces of bodies more than anything the blood and…"
'Ahd Sabbah: "This is what I saw."
Interviewer: "If I told you that the explosive devices and planted bombs… usually claim the lives of victims, Iraqi victims, youth, women and children what would your reaction be to this?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "I don't know."
Interviewer: "You don't know?" […]
"I Worked From 2007 Till 2008" Making Bombs... If I Said Yes [I Regret My Actions] Just For the Interview or If I Really Felt It, That Doesn't Matter To You"
Interviewer: "Did your wife know what you were doing?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "She knew recently."
Interviewer: "What did she do when she knew? What did she say to you?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Women in our country have no opinion."
Interviewer: "How many explosive devices did you use to make each day?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Seven, 8, 9, or 2, 1. It depended on the conditions."
Interviewer: "How long did you work like this?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "I worked from 2007 till 2008."
Interviewer: "You worked on a daily basis?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Sort of." […]
Interviewer: "Do you regret what you did?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Yes."
Interviewer: "Are you saying yes just for the sake of the interview and because we are here? Or do you really regret it?"
'Ahd Sabbah: "Whether I said yes in front of the camera or I am feeling regret… This is something… If I said yes just for the interview or if I really felt [it], that doesn't matter to you."
Interviewer: "It doesn't matter to me, but I want to know. When you say yes, do you believe in it? Were you making explosive devices because you believed in that? I want to know if you say what you believe in."
'Ahd Sabbah: "Thank God for everything."[…]
