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August 16, 2011 Special Dispatch No. 4083

Syrian Opposition Leader Riad Seif Recounts His Experiences in Prison and Says: 'Dialogue Cannot Take Place between a Hangman and His Victim'

August 16, 2011
Syria | Special Dispatch No. 4083

Following are excerpts from an interview with Riad Seif, a Syrian opposition leader, which aired on Al-Arabiya TV on August 5, 2011.


"I Cannot Imagine Anything Worse than This Regime; Finding an Alternative is Not the Problem"

Riad Seif: "My second incarceration was more difficult. My illness affected me more, and the injustice and hatred with which they treated me were indescribable. They treated me very cruelly. I believe the day will come when – as in the words of [Syrian poet] Nizar Qabbani – 'I will tell in the investigation' how they treated me in an inhumane manner, despite my age and my illness.

"Their rancor and their baseness were... I don't know how to... I have never known how to use words of contempt in Arabic, but those people are more contemptible than words can express.

"Despite everything, our revolution does not stem from a desire for revenge. [...]

"I cannot imagine anything worse than this regime. Finding an alternative is not the problem. History has taught us that the Syrian people... An alternative cannot emerge under tyranny, because one of the main characteristics of tyranny is that it does not allow the emergence of any alternative.

"In the Damascus Declaration, we established a national council, with 167 members, representing most of the political, geographical, pan-Arabist, and religious varieties. Its composition reflected Syrian society, to a very great extent. We convened and established a national council in a democratic way, electing our leaders.

"A few days later, they arrested 12 of us – most of the leaders – and threw us into prison for two and a half years, on charges of attempting a coup and weakening the resolve of the nation."

"The Syrians Living Abroad… are Ready to Return, at Any Moment, in Order to Participate in the Building of Our Country"

"So how can anyone claim that there is no alternative? The alternative exists. But we want the [political] climate to improve, allowing the potential of the Syrians to be realized. We have many people with great capabilities, in Syria and abroad. The Syrians living abroad did not emigrate in order to find jobs. The vast majority were forced into exile. They are ready to return, at any moment, in order to participate in the building of our country. Finding an alternative is no problem whatsoever for a people like the Syrian people. [...]

"All the efforts are focused on avoiding the loss of life and property, and on accomplishing a revolution with minimal losses and as quickly as possible.

"In my view, there is no way back. The Syrian people has tasted the taste of its honor and its freedom, and it will not give it up, no matter the cost. I hope that the cost will not be high, and that we will manage to prevent bloodshed.

"I believe – and I am one of the optimists – that the fears harbored by some people with regard to loss of life will ultimately not be realized. We can see that the Syrian people has too much awareness to slide into a sectarian war, and to fall into the trap set by the regime." [...]

"When I Got Out of Adra Prison After Ten Days, I had Full Conviction that the Revolution Would Prevail"

"Dialogue cannot take place between a hangman and his victim, between a wolf and a sheep, or between a criminal and his victim. Dialogue could have taken place ten years ago, and indeed, in the Damascus Spring, we proposed holding a dialogue. The regime's response was to throw us into prison. We proposed dialogue again in the Damascus Declaration in 2005, and in 2007, we were imprisoned again.

"Today, after all the sacrifices made by the Syrian people, I believe that the word 'dialogue' between us and the regime has become anathema in the eyes of the entire Syrian public. [...]

"When I go [to a demonstration], I don't view myself as a fighter. I go to enjoy myself. I recall that when I was arrested on Friday, May 6, they took me from among the demonstrators, and gave me harsh beatings. Blood was dripping from my head, and my clothes were soaked in blood. I didn't feel any pain. The smile did not leave my face. They dragged me by force, while I was being beaten continuously by five or six men with clubs. Later, I saw that my entire body was black and blue, but I didn't feel any pain.

"Luckily for me, I was taken for ten days to Adra Prison, where I met hundreds of people arrested for taking part in demonstrations. It was an opportunity for me to experience the tragedies of the Syrian people. In all the encounters I had during these ten days, nobody said to me: I won't demand my freedom anymore. They all felt the desire to be released from prison, not because they were afraid or were suffering there, but because they wanted to go back to demonstrate and fight for their freedom.

"The basic motivation for the Syrian revolution is the people's sense of honor, followed by the desire for freedom. Of course, you cannot separate the two. Therefore, when I got out of Adra Prison after ten days, I had full conviction that the revolution would prevail.

"It will prevail, and there is not even 0.1% doubt of this. Those young men are invincible. They are like the first followers of Islam, who built Islam out of a deep-rooted belief in their right and in their cause." [...]

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