Following are excerpts from an interview with Egyptian cleric Dr. Khaled Said, which aired on Al-Hafez TV (via the Internet) on March 17, 2013.

Khaled Said: If the revolution declares a framework for dealing with the West and America – they will accept it, kiss our hands, and double the aid they give us. We consider this aid to be jizya [poll tax], not regular aid.

Interviewer: Is this the rhetoric of the revolution?

Khaled Said: It certainly is.

Interviewer: The aid the Americans give us is the jizya tax they have to pay?

Khaled Said: Yes, it is. They pay it for the right of passage through our airspace and territorial waters.

Interviewer: They pay to keep us quiet?

Khaled Said: They pay so that we will let them be.

Interviewer: Is that a fatwa?

Khaled Said: Indeed. The aid constitutes jizya.

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We must strive to realize the goals of the revolution, and to establish a sovereign, Arab Islamic state in Egypt. Then this state will impose payment of aid upon America as jizya, in exchange for allowing it to realize its interests – the ones that we approve, get it?

They must pay reparations for destroying our country and the Islamic nation – them and others in the West – so that we will agree to cooperate with them.

Interviewer: But this is not what jizya means.

Khaled Said: Nevertheless, I call it jizya.

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