Following are excerpts
from an interview with Pakistani actress Veena Malik, who participated
on the "Big Boss" show – the Indian version of the "Big
Brother" show. The interview aired on Express News TV on January
21, 2011.
Interviewer: There
is an allegation against you, made by a segment of Pakistani society,
that you brought dishonor upon Pakistani culture by going to India.
Your dresses and your actions, as well as your interactions with people
there, did not represent the ideological foundations of Pakistan, its
culture, or its people. As an ambassador of Pakistan, do you regret
your actions – if these allegations are true – or do you think the
allegations are baseless?
Veena Malik: Look,
these allegations are baseless, because according to the format of the
"Big Boss" show, celebrities – not only from Pakistan, but
from all over the world, including Hollywood – participate in this
show. It is not a cultural variety show, which promotes a certain culture,
or a religious show, where one is allowed to promote one's religion.
You are not allowed to bring your religious books [onto the premises].
[...]
Interviewer: My
basic question is whether Veena Mali, as a Pakistani, brought disrespect
upon Pakistan by going to India and by her actions there.
Pakistani religious
scholar Mufti Abdul Qavi: In the name of Allah, most Merciful, most
Compassionate. First, I would like to welcome my sister upon her return
to Pakistan.
Veena Malik: Thank
you.
Mufti Abdul Qavi:
What she has said certainly filled my heart with sadness, as well as
the hearts of all Pakistanis, who believe that she is among those Pakistanis
who owe their fame to Pakistan. I believe that she was both challenging
the Two-Nation Theory,1 and promoting hollow ideologies,
which are not appropriate for a famous and great person like her.
[...]
Veena Malik: I
would feel a burden on my conscience if I had done anything wrong. I
have not done anything wrong. I'm just an entertainer, and if anyone
can prove that while living in this country, I did anything against
the law – whether the Islamic or state law – you can punish me for
that.
[...]
Mufti Abdul Qavi:
If she does not have pangs of conscience because of what she did, then
I would tell her to awaken her conscience. No one in Pakistan can look
at her pictures in the presence of their daughters. I don't think that
her son will like to look at his mother's picture in the future, in
her presence or in the presence of his father or brother.
Interviewer: Go
ahead.
Veena Malik: Mufti
Sahab, first, I would like to respond to all your questions. As far
as Islamic religion is concerned – Islam is a vast religion. Islam
also means that I am the sole provider for my five sisters and my brother,
and I have paid for their education.
Also, as long as you
are talking about Islam, let met tell you that you are not allowed to
set eyes on me in my present condition. You should be punished in public,
because charity begins at home. Clerics may look at a woman once, but
if they look at her a second time, they must be punished. You deserve
to be punished, because you are not allowed to look at me in this condition.
Secondly, if you want
to do something for the glory of Islam, you have plenty of opportunities.
What are the politicians doing? Bribery, robbery, theft, and killing
in the name of Islam. There are many things to talk about. Why Veena
Malik? Because Veena Malik is a woman? Because Veena Malik is a soft
target for you? What has Veena Malik done? Did Veena Malki lip-lock?
Did Veena Malik wear shorter clothes than what Pakistani actresses wore
in India in the past? Why Veena Malik, Mufti Sahab?
There are many other
things for you to deal with. There are Islamic clerics who rape the
children they teach in their mosques, and so much more.
Pakistan is infamous
for many reasons other than Veena Malik. Veena Malik is entertainment,
and believe me, I have done 10,000 good deeds, and my people have not
supported me in this. Since you have set up a court here, I demand that
the court dispense justice. I am more angry with you people than you
are with me. If I am held accountable by you, then you too must answer
my questions.
Mufti Sahab, there are
many things in your community that need to be rectified, so please correct
them. Veena Malik and the entertainment industry are much further down
on the list.
Mufti Abdul Qavi:
Respected Veena Malik Sahiba, I told you earlier that you are my sister,
and there is no need to get so emotional. Every person plays a role.
Veena Malik: If
there are immoral people in the show business, there may also be immoral
people among the clerics... Mufti Sahab, I remember when you once called
a woman "shameless." If you are indeed spreading the Islam
of the Prophet, peace be upon him, then you should know that the Prophet
would stand up out of respect whenever a woman walked in. He never called
them "shameless."
You should begin by reforming
your own home, and only then ask me to do the same. I am a Muslim,
and I have done many good deeds. You have to listen to me to learn about
them.
[...]
Mufti Sahab, what does
your Islam teach you? Does it teach you to issue edicts on the basis
of rumors? You started to talk about a girl without even seeing what
she had done. So what if people say – what does your Islam say? What
do you say? Have you seen me...
Mufti Abdul Qavi:
Listen, my religion says...
Veena Malik: Show
me a single picture of me doing something inappropriate. Listen to me.
Mufti Abdul Qavi:
Let me tell you that I did not watch the show, but there are millions
of Pakistanis who watched what you did, and all 100 percent of them
think that you have disgraced Pakistan, as well as Islam.
Veena Malik: Mufti
Sahab, you are wrong.
[...]
Pamela Anderson, who
is a very big Hollywood star... When she was leaving the show, Salman
Khans asked her who she would remain in contact with. She said that
because Veena Malik does social work for Pakistan, she would like to
do social work in Pakistan. Now, tell me how many programs you did on
this aspect of my role.
When at the beginning
of the program, Shweta used very dirty words against my character –
where were my people, where was the media? When Rahul voted for
me just for being a Pakistani, where were my people, where was the media?
When Manoj Tiwari was hurling dirty abuse at me, where were my people,
where was my media?
You saw the footage.
Didn't you see how much love I gave to every person in the house? Watch
from the first day to the last. I gave my love to everyone, just to
show that these people do not represent Pakistanis... Those people whose
passports turn out to be Pakistani, when a terror attack takes place...
There are also Pakistanis like us, who enjoy entertainment, fun, and
love.
[...]