Following are
excerpts
from an interview with Saudi cleric Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif, which aired
on Al-Daleel TV on February 19, 2010.
Interviewer: One
is astonished to hear, in a social gathering, an old man bragging about
marrying a young girl, and boasting that his bride was given to him
as a gift from her father, or that a business deal was struck at the
expense of this poor girl, by parents who did not care about her childhood
innocence or her humanity, or by parents whose poverty forced them to
pay the old man with their daughter.
In today's, show, I will
ask my guest, Dr. Al-Sharif, whether it is the right of the parents,
or of society, to allow a girl to be married off at the age of 10 or
12 years. The law in the civilized world considers these marriages to
be a crime. How are they viewed by our religious law?
[...]
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif:
This issue has been blown entirely out of proportion, and there is confusion
about its basics. We say that such a girl is a "minor," but
dictionaries do not define a girl as a minor, if she has reached puberty.
'Aisha said that when a girl reaches the age of nine, she becomes a
woman. Let's be practical. Let's put all of this aside.
What is the percentage
of these marriages in Saudi Arabia? In Saudi Arabia, we have 20 million
people. Half of them are women – that's 10 million. According to the
most extreme statistics I have read, 3,000 girls under the age of 13
were married off to men more than 20 years their senior. That's 3,000
out of 10 million, more or less.
What does this figure
mean?
Interviewer: But
don't you think that 3,000 is...
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif:
Allow me... Does 3,000 out of 10 million constitute a social phenomenon?
Interviewer: But
even these 3,000 girls have rights.
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif:
Undoubtedly.
Interviewer: We
should consider the humane aspect, even if there were only three girls.
[...]
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif:
In many newspapers, it has been suggested that the minimum age for marriage
should be 18. Why 18? They said that Saudi Arabia is committed to something
called the Human Rights Treaty, which set the minimum age for marriage
at 18 years. This is, of course, unacceptable.
Interviewer: Why
not?
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif:
I read that the official spokesman for the US government said that the
US is worried about the marriage of girls in Saudi Arabia. This is really
funny. The rate of child prostitution in American and Western societies
is enormous. This is a well-known fact.
Second, all the children
whose death was caused by the US in Palestine and Iraq... These people
are not ashamed to say that they are worried about Saudi Arabia, even
though they caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children in
Palestine and in Iraq. This is really distorted logic.
Third, when Islamic law
refers to a certain issue – we don't need human rights.
[...]
Let's assume that there
is a 13-year-old girl... Let's make it 14. Her father sees that she
is physically developed, has reached puberty, and has a sense of understanding
– nothing in Islamic law prevents him from marrying her off.
[...]
Interviewer: Would
you be willing to marry off your 10-year-old daughter to a man in his
eighties?
Muhammad Musa Al-Sharif:
No, brother, I would not, but there is a difference between Islamic
law and its practice. I wouldn't be pleased by this, but I do not forbid
it.
[...]
Let's assume that the
government listens to these people, God forbid, and sets the minimum
age for marriage at 18. There are many good girls who, at the age of
13 or 14, are developed and ready for marriage. There are hundreds of
thousands of girls like that in our society. They will not be married
off. They will have to wait 3 or 4 years to become 18. This constitutes
an injustice to such a large sector of society – compared to the several
dozens or hundreds of girls who would be wronged, because of the greed
of their fathers.
[...]
We are committed to international
treaties as long as they do not violate Islamic law. If they violate
Islamic law, we should throw them out, because they are not worth the
ink they were written with. With all due respect, the international
treaties are worthless.
[...]
Who is responsible for
the human rights and international treaties? The atheists, the Christians,
and the fornicators, with all due respect.